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 Subject :N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-05-18- 10:11:29 
AJ4TW
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So, it looks like to me that the new N1MM+ does not work over BBHN.  N1MM+ wants to see all the stations on the same subnet, then uses some .NET Framework code to automatically connect them.  It works fine on a normal WLAN, but when I try and connect them through the mesh, obviously, no joy.  

Is there a work-around that anyone knows of?   I'd love to use BBHN at field day, we were planning to run some other services between the stations as well.  But it's looking like we're going to be running a lot of CAT5 around.


TIA,

Cameron

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 Subject :Re:N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-05-18- 11:06:08 
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 Subject :Re:N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-05-18- 13:54:21 
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The primary mode (and the default) is the direct lan mode. If you set up the nat mode, you have to determine all the ports, forward the ports and manage any changes that may occur because of differning subnets. The direct mode gives your LAN issued DHCP addresses a 10.x.x.x on the logging computer with a subnet containing all mesh addresses. Only those users in the NAT mode are restricted by the the above issues. Direct mode places every logging workstation on the same LAN in the same subnet. Most importantly, if your application won't work with the member computers plugged into the same wired router (test as wired network, not a mesh) it won't work over the mesh either.
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 Subject :Re:N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-05-18- 14:00:55 
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I tested over my home wifi with the same two computers and everything worked just fine. they got 192.168.0.x addresses from my WLAN DHCP and instantly saw each other and shared files. I then disabled the WLAN adapter in the laptops and connected a node to each laptop and got nothing. I'll try again and see what I can do. I may take some screenshots of the config and you guys may hopefully be able to tell me where I've gone wrong.
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 Subject :Re:N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-05-18- 14:10:30 
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 Subject :Re:N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-05-18- 14:31:55 
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It works when both laptops are plugged into the same node.

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 Subject :Re:N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-05-19- 04:04:59 
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Thanks to AE6XE, it's all sorted out.  


For those who will be attempting this soon as FD approaches.

In N1MM go to:

Network Status>Actions>Edit Computer Addresses

Enter the name of the computer and the IP address it has on the LAN of the node that it is on.

Give it a few seconds to resynch and all should be good to go.


Thank you to all who helped.  It was a little easier than I was trying to make it.  ;-)



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 Subject :Re:N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-05-19- 09:25:31 
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Glad you and Joe got it figured out.  Great news.

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 Subject :Re:N1MM Plus over BBHN.. 2015-11-21- 11:08:43 
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Hi all,

I have been working my way through setting up BBHN and whatever apps I can find that might be useful, one of which is N1MM+. There are lots of things being said about this setup, but with the latest version (possible the last-est version) of software for the WRT54G series, the instructions with DMZ comments and address spaces get very confusing.

What I discovered was an outstanding PDF article at https://www.dropbox.com/s/laevr8hhb4zudrj/Field Day%2C N1MM%2B%2C and mesh.pdf?oref=e which gave nearly step-by-step instructions to do the setup. Very helpful. The important thing is to remember that even though K5CS uses a 172.x.x.x fixed address for the master, it is NOT a NAT or DMZ network. It is native, using whatever address spaces the routers setup (I used default everything).

What I did was just attached my first PC, and named it master in N1MM+. Then I did a DHCP address reservation, and after that it was all setup in N1MM+ itself (i.e. the entering the IP address of each correspondent on the WAN -- the broader 10.x.x.x address space for routers and computers).

If you can get 2 computers working with N1MM+ on a common router (the one the master is on), then the step to separate routers is just moving the slave, then adding it to the network computer table in N1MM+. Be warned, however, I had to shut off all antivirus protection as that was a major reason for failed connectivity.

I've been able to set N1MM+ up, sync, post contacts from both, and even "stop the network" (considered evil), and restart it. The resync worked like a cat's meow. And with all N1MM+ setups, you must get its config matching across computers or lots of red messages will appear.  ;-)

Now that article is very hard to find just with searching, and it doesn't appear to be on this site. Perhaps the author would like to make it available and visible here, but I thought K7CS has done a sterling job of explaining how to set this up. KUDO's to you, Charles K5CS!!

No longer a need to wonder how-to -- there are now tools available to get to it.

All the best!!  

Don VA7IQ, AE7UP 
Delta, BC, Canada 

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