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 Subject :CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-11-28- 14:31:40 
kd4ysh
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Hello Newbee here ok I have flashed 3 out of my 12 wrt54g routers and have them plugged in and from any of my computers it does not see them. Do I need to load any type of software on my laptop that is 200 feet away to connect or see the nodes and communicate and see the traffic? Please any help will be much appreciated.


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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-11-29- 13:33:28 
KG6JEI
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Are you hard wired to the node that is 200ft away? Are you having issue brining up the http://localnode:8080 page?  

Make sure to turn off your laptop wifi (if your connected to a wifi network and the node it can confuse the computer some times) 

http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/just-starting-read-this.html may be a good starting place as well to help you understand the mesh basics.

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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-11-30- 06:51:47 
kd4ysh
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Thank you for your reply I am not hard wired I just type in the http://localnode:8080 and says page not found, I will check and see if the laptop has the wifi on or off I suppose it is on because I can connect to my wireless internet connection, I will try and yurn off the wifi, thank you for your help. Kd4ysh 73's
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-11-30- 07:15:30 
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When you first flash the routers, they will need to be configured. You can do this via WiFi (by connecting to an SSID titled MeshNode) or via Ethernet (turn off wifi) and navigating with your browser to http://localnode:8080/.

After that, they switch into AdHoc mode (you don't need to know that). But what you do need to know is that after the initial configuration, the mesh can be accessed via Ethernet (turn off WiFi) by navigating to http://localnode:8080/

I hope this helps!

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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-11-30- 08:40:28 
kd4ysh
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Hello Friend and thank you for the reply, I now can see the meshnode from 200 feet away on my laptop with the wifi turned off and not hard wired. The laptop keeps trying to connect to the meshnode but never connects but it does see it with a good signal. I did not check the SSID. I let the laptop sit for 15 minutes but still seeing it but will not connect so it looks like I am getting closer, thanks again for ant direction. KD4YSH 73's
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 Subject :Re:Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-02- 12:44:26 
KI6MLU
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Joseph,

I may be missing something or there may be a typo, but if your wifi is turned off and you are not hard wired, how are you connecting your PC to the node??  How were you connected to the Linksys when you uploaded the firmware?  were you connected by ethernet or wifi?  Are you running Windows or MacOS on your PC?

If you are using a Windows PC and are connecting via wifi, try this:

1.  Enable your wifi connection and configure the TCP/IP properties to use DHCP

2.  Disable all of the other connections (ethernet, VPN, etc.) and disconnect the ethernet cable.

3.  Connect your wifi to the SSID "MeshNode"

4.  Before you proceed further, make sure that you have an IP address in the 10.x.x.x range.  Open a command prompt, type ipconfig.  If you don't have an IP address or it is not in the 10.x.x.x range, type ipconfig /renew.  If you still cannot get an IP address, open the connection properties and click on the repair button.

5.  Open a web browser, and enter the following URL "http://localnode:8080"

6.  Click the setup button.  The login name is "root" and the default password is "hsmm"

If you are running MacOS, replace steps 1-4 with this:

1.  Open the System Configuration, click on Network

2.  Disable or unplug any connections other than wifi (i.e., ethernet, VPN, modem)

3.  Connect to the SSID "MeshNode"

4.  Wait until your wifi has an IP address in the 10.x.x.x range.  If you don't have one, click on "Advanced" and make sure the wifi is set to use DHCP, then click the renew button.



[kd4ysh 2014-11-30- 08:40:28]:

Hello Friend and thank you for the reply, I now can see the meshnode from 200 feet away on my laptop with the wifi turned off and not hard wired. The laptop keeps trying to connect to the meshnode but never connects but it does see it with a good signal. I did not check the SSID. I let the laptop sit for 15 minutes but still seeing it but will not connect so it looks like I am getting closer, thanks again for ant direction. KD4YSH 73's
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-02- 13:50:24 
kd4ysh
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Russ thank you for your message back to me, my computer when i open the broser will not connect to http://localnode:8080 says page not found. If I do a search of available networks in my area it will find the mesh node router but will not connect to it in the same room or 200 feet away all wirelessly of course. I never did any changes to the ssid number should I have changed that to meshnode? I guess once I get on the right path I will be fine. thanks
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-02- 13:59:00 
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Does it show up as "meshnode" or "Broadbandhamnet-20-v3". If it is the later you have already gone through setup and you MUST use an Ethernet cable as wifi is for node to node only.
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-02- 14:56:07 
kd4ysh
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Hello yes the latter....from my laptop wireless it sees the 'broadbandhamnet-20-ve" I open my internet browser and type in http://localnode:8080 and nothing, my laptop sees the node but will not connect to it. I flashed 5 routers the linksys wrt54g models ver 1 thru 4 and when I was complete with the flash everything was verified and came up with my call letters and the node number I gave it, but that was the last time I ever saw that screew, should I see that same screen on my laptop wireless connection after I type in in internet explorer the local node 8080, shoul it connect at that point? I only have one node connected right now, I think I am so close but not there yet. When I did my flashing I used the cable from my laptop to the router. Thanks for your help like I said I think I am really close but something not right, I did not look or change anything in the SSID area opr any of the per set settings. Thank you again. KD4YSH
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-02- 15:27:20 
KG6JEI
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Once they are configured you must connect using a wire to the node.

The wireless card on the router is used to talk to other mesh nodes, it can not speak to a laptop because the laptop does not know how to speak mesh. 

Plug an Ethernet cable into the wrt54g and into your laptop.  Make sure wifi is off on your laptop.  Then launch http://localnode:8080 

You will see the basic screen again.  From here if you have multiple mesh modes turned on you can then click on "Mesh Status" and see them as well.

the important thing is you MUST be hard wired in with a cable to a node to be able to access it.

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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-02- 16:53:40 
kd4ysh
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Thank you Friend not the light has come on....thank you I will try this Wednesday..so that means I am hard wired here and the other nodes just transfer info from one to another and so on them another hard wired laptop to a node can receive the info. I was looking at the wireless aspect on my side, now I see thank you very much I will try this and let you know my results. I see what I was doing wrong now.... Thank you Friend 73's KD4YSH
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-04- 11:49:45 
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Hello again friend, I am about to give up, I flashed 2 of my routers cabled to my laptop and it took the upgrade, my screen name and node number came up on the screen, I did not make ant changes other then the ones set forth in the instructions from this website. I can plug in one router and take my laptop cabled to another flashed router and it will see it, I open up internet exployer and type in http://localnode:8080 and it never connects, I am at a loss, it will not connect, I never changed anything in the SSID area, I just do not understand why this will not connect. I have done all I can and read the setup instructions I must still be missing something. Any direction will be much appreciated.
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-04- 14:38:53 
KI6MLU
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Joseph,

You have successfully flashed and setup the two routers and they are now part of the mesh network.

1.  Please explain what you are seeing when you plug your laptop into the second node.  Are you seeing the first node?  the second node?  the mesh network?  the SSID? 

2.  Can you reconnect to the first node?  When you click on the "Mesh Status" button on the first node's status screen, is the second node listed?

3.  What is the IP address of your laptop and the IP address of the gateway when you are connected to the first node?  What is the IP address of your laptop and the IP address of the gateway when you are connected to the second node?



[kd4ysh 2014-12-04- 11:49:45]:

Hello again friend, I am about to give up, I flashed 2 of my routers cabled to my laptop and it took the upgrade, my screen name and node number came up on the screen, I did not make ant changes other then the ones set forth in the instructions from this website. I can plug in one router and take my laptop cabled to another flashed router and it will see it, I open up internet exployer and type in http://localnode:8080 and it never connects, I am at a loss, it will not connect, I never changed anything in the SSID area, I just do not understand why this will not connect. I have done all I can and read the setup instructions I must still be missing something. Any direction will be much appreciated.

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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-04- 16:12:14 
kd4ysh
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Russ thank you for your time and help. I can connect hardwire one node to my laptop open browser type in http://localnode:8080 and it always says page not found it never comes up with the page I saw when I programmed the nodes. If I turn on my wifi it will show the other node in my list of connection spots but I had wifi off when hard wired. I did not change any settings or check them in the SSID area, for some the laptop with the hard wired router never connects. When I type in the http://localnode:8080 it should connect into this node for me to see all the other nodes but it does not, maybe I did something wrong in the setup but when I loaded the new nodes it said completed and then I put in my call letters and gave the node a number I only did what the set up paperwork told me to do. Could the problem be in that SSID even tho I never changed anything in the area? Russ thank you again, John KJ6QAJ in L. A. is a good friend of mine not sure if you know him or not. Thanks again hopefully I can get this project up and running it seems like a problem on both nodes I have swapped them and same out come, any help will bail me out Russ thank you friend. 73's
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-04- 16:51:12 
KG6JEI
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Do you know what version of the software you installed on the node ? (Hint: it's in the name of the flash file if you still have it and do not recall)

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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-04- 21:52:54 
KI6MLU
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Joseph, You can install the firmware and run the initial setup using wifi or ethernet. Once you've completed steps 1-4 of the installation procedure, you have a working mesh node, and you can only connect to the node via ethernet cable. Even though you see "BroadbandHamnet-20-v3" in the list of wifi SSIDs, you cannot connect to any of the nodes from your laptop while using wifi because the nodes are using a different wireless protocol that is only compatible with other nodes.

My theory is that even though you had an ethernet cable hooked up from your PC to the router, you still had wifi enabled on your PC and actually were using wifi instead of ethernet to install the firmware and do the initial setup. Hint: during steps 1 and 2, the SSID of the router would be "Linksys", and you would connect to the router at http://192.168.1.1. During step 3 and 4, the SSID would be "MeshNode" and you would connect to the router at http://localnode:8080. After you complete step 4, the SSID becomes "BroadbandHamnet-20-v3" and you can no longer connect via wifi because the node is using the mesh protocol, so "http://localnode:8080" will return a "not found" error.

Since you have completed steps 1-4, you have a working mesh node. You cannot connect to the node except via Ethernet.

1. Disable your wifi connection

2. Enable your ethernet connection. Configure the TCP/IP properties to use DHCP

3. Connect an ethernet cable from your PC to one of the LAN ports on the node

4. Make sure that you have an IP address in the 10.x.x.x range by opening a command prompt and enter the command IPCONFIG.

5. Open a browser and enter http://localnode:8080

6. The login name is "root". Enter the password that you setup during the installation process.


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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-05- 12:18:27 
kd4ysh
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Russ Thank you again I will try this saturday I really appreciate your help. It must be a little thing and hopefully this will work it out, do I need to do this to all the routers I flashed? Thanks kd4ysh
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 Subject :Re:Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-06- 03:56:56 
KI6MLU
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During testing, you should connect locally to each node (thru its LAN port) just to make sure that each node is properly configured to communicate with your laptop via ethernet.  In production, once you have connected to your local node through its ethernet port, you can "pass through" it to reach any other node on the mesh by clicking on the Mesh Status button, then clicking on the name (or IP address) of the other node.





[kd4ysh 2014-12-05- 12:18:27]:

Russ Thank you again I will try this saturday I really appreciate your help. It must be a little thing and hopefully this will work it out, do I need to do this to all the routers I flashed? Thanks kd4ysh

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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-07- 09:26:27 
kd4ysh
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Russ, Thank you again friend, FINALLY, I can connect from my laptop to my router and I can see the other nodes I have powered up. When I click a specific node that is highlighted in blue and it connects to that specific node my next question is and I do not see this info in any of the videos even tho they talk about it,at this point when I am connected I guess I need to download a "chat server" of software to let me send text to another node.If I have one of my other nodes at a fellow hams house with my call letters on that node do we both have to have the "chat software" installed on both laptops to send text back and forth or does he have to have a different node with his own call letters? I am now to this point and hopefully this will get me up and running, I will worry about video and VOIP at a later date but the text chat would be what I am mainly interested in now. Thank you again you have be most helpful in getting me on track. 73's KD4YSH
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 Subject :Re:CAN'T ACCESS NODES.. 2014-12-07- 09:36:31 
KF5JIM
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I am glad to hear you finally got connected. In the case that other people have the same problem, what did you do to solve the issue you were facing?

You've just made that small step into the relm of mesh, friend! There is still a lot to learn. In my opinion, installing an IRC server is a more difficult task than streaming video. If I were you, start with video, then move to an IRC server, and then onto VoIP (at times, not necessarily for the faint of heat).

However, if you want to start with an IRC server (the first thing I did when I got into mesh), take a look here: http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/applications-for-the-mesh/118-internet-relay-chat-irc.html

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