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Subject :Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2012-09-12- 18:45:28
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ad9b |
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Just a note to anyone else playing with these - I was able to get OLSRD working and talking to my WRT54G nodes, using the development HSMM-MESH firmware on the WRT's. I compiled the 0.6.3 version but there is a 0.6.2 package that may work as well. I'm using a realtek based wifi dongle and it is running okay (so far) from the USB on board, not running a powered hub. I don;t have a keyboard or mosue hooked up, either, though, coming in via ethernet, so that may help the power equation.
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2012-10-02- 21:43:30
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KI4WPI |
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Do you have a .bin file already put together for this? I just ordered a pi and should get it in a couple days. I am going to be leaning on my close fellow ham/Linux nerds to help me get my nodes up and working, hopefully I'll peak thier interest into setting up one also since there is no HSMM-MESH established in Broward County, FL. |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2012-10-05- 15:57:26
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ad9b |
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I don't have a bin - I basically got olsrd (with the secure module) and dnsmask running, then started trying to adapt some of the busybox custom web stuff so the node looks similar. So it's not really an HSMM-MESH-DEV node, per se, but it will route traffic just fine.
Since there's really no one nearby to node up with, and since it's a dev version anyway, I haven't pursued it much lately. Once I get done playing with the Rubidium GPSDO and ntp I may come back to it. |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2012-10-30- 13:34:44
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w8iss |
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Any chance you could do a quick and dirty write p on exactly the steps you used to set up the Pi?
Interested in getting one but waiting for a little because I want to get some cameras to hook up.
With the Pi being so cheap (around 35 dollars before SD card), its an interesting idea to have everything installed on one item.
James W8ISS
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-26- 06:13:07
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KK6DCI |
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I've started a project called HSMM-Pi that configures a Raspberry Pi to work as an HSMM mesh node. From my own experience, the HSMM-Pi node is compatible with HSMM-MESH nodes running on a Linksys WRT54G platform. The HSMM-Pi node runs on the Raspbian Linux distribution with many of the same tools used on the HSMM-MESH (OLSRD, etc). Here's a link to the project: https://github.com/urlgrey/hsmm-pi 73, -- Scott Kidder KK6DCI |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-26- 07:58:56
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n7ego |
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Cool project, Scott. I guess one disadvantage of using a Raspberry Pi as a mesh node instead of a WRT54G is that you only have one wired Ethernet port instead of 5. What are the advantages of using a Raspberry Pi as a mesh node? I'm not as familiar with Raspberry Pis as I'd like to be. |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-26- 11:00:37
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What are the advantages of using a Raspberry Pi as a mesh node?
Just think of the multitudes of web services that can be offered. The WRT54G's can only hold so much space. By adding a RPi to the BBHN (or...for that matter...any computer) either by plugging it in to the BBHN through a BBHN node or having it be a BBHN node, you can host services that the BBHN Node would not be capable of. You could host a samba, irc, fully-featured asterisk, email, or motion detection and tracking with a camera(opencv) server...just to name a few. You could also have them act as mini-repeaters or even log telemetry data that can be pulled from another computer (or phone) in some remote location. The limit is your imagination. If there is a need for a service, there is a way. |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-26- 15:29:20
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n7ego |
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I can see the value of using a Raspberry Pi as a server in a mesh network. But I'm trying to understand the value of having the Raspberry Pi be a part of the mesh itself. I guess you gain some simplicity by having one box instead of two. And your total power consumption would be lower, which could be important in emergency situations. Does anyone know how the power consumption of a Raspberry Pi compares to the power consumption of a WRT54G? |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-26- 18:08:15
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AC2IE |
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The Pi takes 5V at less than an amp, but the real advantage is that you can drive a cheap, relatively high-power USB wireless device, like the 2 watt Alfa AWUS036NH, but you'll need a powered USB hub. The latest Pi can only supply a few hundred milliamps to its USB ports. I have a Pi running a lower power (1 watt) Alfa 36H and it seemed to work okay plugged directly into the Pi, but I moved it to a powered USB hub anyway because I was worried the onboard fuse on the Pi might blow. You could have a real long distance solution with a higain directional dish, a 2 watt USB wireless device and a Pi running with just couple of amps at 5V. |
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Subject :Re:Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-27- 05:21:12
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Those are a lot less expensive than the standalone amps I've purchased to use with my WRT54G nodes. In an application where you need higher output power the cost of a Raspberry Pi + one of these adapters is going to be quite a bit less than the cost of a WRT54G + a standalone amp even if you find good prices on eBay. And as noted above, the Raspberry Pi gives you a more capable computer for running applications.
[AC2IE 2013-07-26- 18:08:15]: ... the real advantage is that you can drive a cheap, relatively high-power USB wireless device, like the 2 watt Alfa AWUS036NH... |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-27- 14:23:16
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Does anyone know how the power consumption of a Raspberry Pi compares to the power consumption of a WRT54G?
I had to build a stand-alone power supply for the RPi for a College Senior Design Project at the beginning of this year. The RPi needs 5.2V and 1A in order to fully boot and be functional. Any less, it starves, cannot turn on devices and reboots. Though the WRT54G* routers come with 12V/1A power supply, they only require ~0.25A |
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Subject :Re:Re:Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-28- 15:42:23
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And the Alfa AWUS036NH uses the Atheros chipset! Horray
[AC2IE 2013-07-26- 18:08:15]: ... the real advantage is that you can drive a cheap, relatively high-power USB wireless device, like the 2 watt Alfa AWUS036NH... |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-29- 03:41:37
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I see there being a couple of advantages of the Pi over a re-purposed router:
* Flashing firmware to a router is inherently dangerous, and prone to bricking the router. And, often, there is no way to "unbrick" the device.
* Routers are inherently limited in their RAM and NVRAM.
* Routers are inherently limited to what can be built on them, due to CPU constraints.
* With most COTS routers, firmware is subject to OEM compatibility, and specific models.
Rasperberry Pi is a readily available device, with expandable RAM and Non-volatile storage, opening up new possibilities with a simple HW expansion. And, it's a completely open design (Anyone can get the parts, and build the same exact machine you have, it's not limited to a single set of vendors). |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-08-06- 12:46:25
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Have you had a chance to adapt/test with the new version 1? |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-08-08- 01:30:54
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w8iss |
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I tried to load up the hsmm-pi to my Ubuntu laptop the other day just for the fun of it to see what might happen.
Well, first up, this laptop needs a major update on the latest version of Ubuntu (still at 11.10). So I knew I might have a couple of 'minor issues' :)
Loaded the software as the directins said and it loaded nicely. Tried to access it from firefox and just got a bunch of error messages and no actual page :(
Like I said, I did this for the fun of it and knew I might have issues until I can do a fresh install here.
Now to see what I can do with it once I get it loaded to my Pi. |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-08-15- 16:20:31
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KK6DCI |
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Hi W8ISS, I have been developing the HSMM-Pi project on a Ubuntu 12.04 VM without any problems. The Ubuntu 11.10 release is a couple years old. I suggest testing with Ubuntu 12.04; or, even better, put is a Raspberry Pi and let me know how it goes :)
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Subject :Re:Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-10-07- 10:13:32
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Have you had a chance to adapt/test with the new version 1?
I am really interested in getting 1.0 to work on the Raspberry Pi. I've got a WRT-54GL running the new software, but have not had much luck getting the Pi to talk to it.
- Jim WN1X |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-10-07- 12:29:21
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My RasPi/Alfa AWUS036HN is talking to my three 1.0 flashed Linksys routers just fine using KK6DCI's HSMM-Pi project. I just had to set the WiFi SSID to "BroadbandHamnet-v1" on channel 1. |
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-10-08- 10:19:06
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I am not sure what the problem was, but everything is playing great now between the Linksys and the Raspberry Pi.
- Jim WN1X |
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Subject :Re:Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-10-20- 18:10:14
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AC2IE, Did you run across any issues using the HSMM-Pi admin application?
I can't seem to get past the initial Save of the admin application. I lose 'wlan0'. I'm using an Alpha AWUS036H wifi adapter plugged into a Pluggable 7 hub. The Pi is plugged into the Pluggable for power and a second time for the 7 USB ports. I can get into the admin application right after "sh install.sh". However, after the first Save and Reboot, wlan0 is lost and so is access to the application. (Using 'WiFi Config' in Pi's browser (Midori) to look for wlan0.) It's probably something simple I'm doing wrong, but since it's my first use of Raspberry Pi, I don't know what that might be. I'm running the admin application through Midori, and SSH from Ubuntu on my laptop. Same problem either way. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dan
[AC2IE 2013-10-07- 12:29:21]: My RasPi/Alfa AWUS036HN is talking to my three 1.0 flashed Linksys routers just fine using KK6DCI's HSMM-Pi project. I just had to set the WiFi SSID to "BroadbandHamnet-v1" on channel 1. |
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